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Wet Wipes And Wine
#11 UNCORKED! It's All A Bit Swagalicious!
As the clouds over England cast their usual grey palette, Ian's and my return to the UK couldn't dampen the vibrant tales we're sharing over a favorite bottle. Our latest Wet Wipes and Wine Podcast episode is a toast to the nomadic joys and trials we face as we swap Bulgarian sunshine for British drizzle and dive into the nitty-gritty of residency paperwork. Reuniting with loved ones has rekindled the wanderlust in our children, and we're unpacking the mixed bag of emotions that comes with long-awaited hugs and the inevitable pull of the road ahead.
It's not all passports and packing though; our hearts beat with the rhythm of Uganda, where our vocational training initiatives are changing lives. Pull up a chair as we recount how the pandemic's shadow couldn't dim the spirit of the women and children in the slums who are now threading their futures with newfound skills. From the pride in their successes to the birth of Swaga Shirts, you'll hear how Ian's vibrant wardrobe inspired a fashion line that's sewing seeds of hope back in Africa. Our online youth club, Global Trailblazing, is also inviting the next generation to join this tapestry of change, weaving their own stories of global community and kindness.
We're ending with a bang—or rather, the buzz of a successful launch. Swaga Shirts has finally strutted onto the scene, and the tale of its journey from pause to full-speed ahead is as colorful as its collection. You'll get a backstage pass to the hustle leading up to our Big Festoon debut, where the support from friends like Dani Wallace reminds us that it takes more than fabric to fashion a dream. Ian chimes in too, sharing his vision for our brand and the future that beckons us, possibly as far as Paris Fashion Week, ha ha! So, refill your glass and join us for a celebration of life's unexpected yawns and yeses, all wrapped up in a podcast episode that's as eclectic and spirited as our travels.
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10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Quick, pass me the wipes. Hi and welcome to Wet Wipes and Wine, the podcast for parents who maybe want to live life a little bit differently from the norm. Maybe you want to travel more as a family or just explore new possibilities. The norm Maybe you want to travel more as a family or just explore new possibilities. Maybe you have family dreams you want to achieve, or maybe you just want to be surrounded by people who remind you that when life throws a load of parenting crap at you, that wet wipes or wine is usually the answer.
Speaker 1:I'm your host, nikki Collinson-Phoenix, and each week I'll be bringing you real life stories from my own parenting journey. I'll also be welcoming guests to share theirs, as well as introducing you to new ideas, thoughts, tips and tricks from my little black book of awesome people. Welcome to Wet Wipes and Wine. Too early for wine. This episode is sponsored by remote solutions, helping you create businesses that are location independent. For more information, visit wwwremotesolutionswork. All right, everyone. Welcome to another episode of wet wipes and Wine, and tonight it is well, today it might be today. Today, I have only had one glass of wine. Today, you go Promise you've only had one glass of wine Today, tonight, wherever you are in the world.
Speaker 1:It is another episode of Uncorked and thee me yes, it is me with ian here tonight and uh, what's tonight for us? It is. We realized, didn't we the other day when we did that recording of date night yeah we have realized the fact that we are traveling most of the time and the kids are around most of the time, that the only time we genuinely can try and get a little bit of time without the kids is friday night, date night, isn't it?
Speaker 1:which doesn't always happen no, it's not a guaranteed thing. So we've kind of realised that our prime time for recording Uncorked is Friday night, which, frankly, is the night when we are uncorked because we're on the wine.
Speaker 2:We are.
Speaker 1:We're on the wine and we should do a little cheers because we have a little celebration tonight. Jink, jink. Do you know? Lani says something funny about this glass. That's a shit glass. That was not much of a ching was it.
Speaker 2:No, that's not glass.
Speaker 1:Well, she said to me the other day she was convinced that this glass was plastic and not glass.
Speaker 2:I think what it is it's glass, but the colouring on it is a plastic coating, I reckon.
Speaker 1:Because that was a really pathetic little shit that's a plastic ching. Do you know what? If this is a plastic glass? This is a bloody good plastic.
Speaker 2:I think the paint is a plastic coating on it.
Speaker 1:You guys can't see it, but I like this little glass. But yeah, that was meant to be a celebratory ching because we've had. We'll have to just go ching ching Because we've actually had quite an exciting little event happen. But firstly, we do actually need to tell people we're not in Bulgaria right now. No, we're not, we are. We are currently recording this in the UK because one our time was up in Bulgaria. Our tourist visa was up, we'd done 90 days there and we just seemed to go really quick. In the end I think it's because we had those puppies on it, the puppies.
Speaker 1:I was working, you were booking, you were yeah, all of that stuff and um, so we're back in the uk for the first time properly in two and a half years since we left yeah because we are processing our residency application for Bulgaria, that requires several trips to the embassy in London, and so, when we actually worked it all out and a couple of other things that were going on in the UK actually, although we didn't, I don't want to, I don't want to be horrible and criticize our country, because that that just feels bad, but we haven't missed being here, have we? And so to actually come back was not something we were that excited about, was it?
Speaker 2:And what's made it even less exciting is that, since we've been back, it's rained. The rain Every frigging day.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'll be honest, it's been nice to see family and friends, hasn't it? It has been really nice, and for the kids to catch up with some of their friends. But we were a bit worried, weren't we actually, about the kids coming back.
Speaker 2:We wondered They'd get their feet under the table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if they would go. Oh, now we don't want to go again, but actually they've seen their friends and they've hung out with their friends a bit.
Speaker 1:But they're all still excited about being back in bulgaria, which um, or being back on the road, yeah, which has been um, lovely yeah, talking about new travel adventures to add to the plans and stuff. So so, yeah, as we record this, we are in the uk and, uh, yeah, not appreciating the rain. The thing is, we've been hearing about people back here telling us about the rain and obviously we were on Facebook and we saw the rain.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's half as bad now as what they've had since November, I mean we arrived in the rain and we probably had about four days of dry.
Speaker 1:in the time we've been back here, it's just been awful, isn't it? So, yeah, we definitely don't appreciate the weather. And then, because we're having friends back, inia posting these lovely pictures of lovely blue skies, and then our other friend, bianca, posted um a little video today of them in turkey and fettier, yeah, and it's like blue skies, 19 degrees, absolutely stunning, all in t-shirts going along the uh the commoner, the beachfront, and I'm like man that was us last year yeah no, it's not us now.
Speaker 1:Um, we're just in wellies and waterproof. So, yeah, so we're back in the uk, but what we're doing is we were like, do you know what, if we have to come back here, we're going to make the most of while we're here, aren't we? And one of the things that we've been doing we've actually launched tonight, haven't we?
Speaker 2:and we thought we'd just sort of have a little chat about that didn't we a little chat, so nikki hasn't launched a business for three weeks, so she thought she'd jump on another one it has been a bit busy, hasn't it? Yeah.
Speaker 1:It has been a bit busy, so I am my own worst enemy. Apparently, I've got a name. My affliction has a name. Did you know that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you mentioned it before. I can't think what it is.
Speaker 1:Apparently it's called a multipotentialite, Multipotentialite.
Speaker 2:Multi-potentialite.
Speaker 1:Apparently, that's what I am. It's a multi-potentialite, okay, and it is somebody who Can't sit still.
Speaker 1:No, it's somebody who is interested in lots of different things. So, instead of like somebody being like focused on, like, say you like running, right, so you would. If you were just doing runnings, connected running stuff for the rest of your life, you'd be quite happy because running's your thing. Yeah, and multi-potentialites, like lots of things in lots of different places. You know like so one minute I could be interested in this and the next I could be interested in that, and then I can be interested in that. And I'm interested in and this is not just from a like I'm bored kind of perspective I'm genuinely interested in lots of things in lots of different areas and I love learning new things in new different areas. Okay, so apparently it has a name. It's called a multi-potential right. What it actually means in everyday practice is permanently knackered brain doesn't switch off. No, doesn't it? Is it exhausting to live with me?
Speaker 1:yes is it exhausting to live with me? Yes, I'll tell you what. Why don't you take some time to think about that answer?
Speaker 2:I can wake up at any time of the night because I need a wee, or I farted myself awake or something like that, and I'll roll over and you're awake. You're on your phone. I know you're answering an email, you're. You're updating a website. You're.
Speaker 1:I'm coming up with a new idea. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:I'm researching yeah and uh, I just roll over and go back to sleep again it's those words you love, isn't it when I go, babe? I've had an idea yeah, and, and you had an idea and it came to fruition.
Speaker 1:No, no, the best bit before we go to this evening, because actually this evening one has been a combined effort. This wasn't really my sole idea. It was a combined one, this evening's one, but it's not just. I'm just thinking about when I say to you I've had an idea, and then I tell you that I've already got the domain. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I bought the domain, I bought the email address.
Speaker 1:I've got all the social accounts. I've got all the social accounts.
Speaker 2:I've got all the hashtags.
Speaker 1:I'm good I launch tomorrow. Yeah, no, it has been. It has been a really busy. It's been a really busy few months with the book and the podcast, and then I was affiliating for my friend's program last week, which is a really great program, but it is quite a-on launch as well and I I learned this new thing before we talk about what we've actually just done before you do that, okay, past the pringles, okay we need to see if we've won.
Speaker 1:It says what could we win on that box? A logitech g cloud console, whatever? That is Okay. So I learned this new phrase the other day and I think after tonight's launch we've just done it's already felt like a launch. It's more of an announcement this time, wasn't it? I learned this new phrase and I I'm gonna experiment with it now, because I said to you at christmas time, when I was literally hanging out my backside knackered, which I am still still now because I haven't stopped is I've said I'm gonna take a fallow.
Speaker 1:I heard the term fallow year. Do you not remember that, do you?
Speaker 1:you're not going to launch anything yeah, that's why we launched a new business plan no, because I said this is after number four, this thing thing called a fallow year, which apparently is to do with farming, and it's when you give, like a field of rest for a year yeah and so I realized that actually that sounded really nice to just not launch anything new for a period of time, just spend time actually just enjoying what we've got and what we've done, because I am aware that I'm just constantly in some kind of launch mode and also the fact that my idea they don't stop, they don't stop. I know they don't stop and I know I'm exhausting to be around and you're kind of used to it by now, but it's just kind of the way I am. But I am very aware that, as an ex health and wellness professional for a quarter of a century, that one can not give from an empty cup.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:And one's cup is dry. So we said in January okay, I had four launches to do between the new year and March, which was the book. Yeah, which was the podcast.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Which was my affiliate with One Too Many, and what we've done tonight. And then I said after tonight or after this launch, we're not going to do any more launches, I'm going to sit back. So what we actually wanted to talk about, we thought we'd share, didn't we?
Speaker 1:We thought, as we've launched, tonight we'll talk about what we've done, because I'm really proud of us because it's been a bit of a labor of love, but also I think it's kind of interesting to talk about us working together, because not only do we live in extremely close proximity to each other and work, in extremely close proximity.
Speaker 2:When did I get a holiday from you?
Speaker 1:I don't know when you've won the lottery.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:We haven't actually killed each other yet or filed for divorce.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Which I think is. I mean, that's quite progress, to be honest. Oh, we've had a wedding anniversary this week as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. You just sit there chomping away. Sorry people listening. Listening to him eating his Pringles, you can tell this is proper hashtag, keeping it real, can't you? Oh yeah, we've had a wedding anniversary this week 8 years. 8 years married 11 years together something like that 8 years married. I think 11 years together. Something like that Eight years married. Yeah, and yeah, I haven't filed for a divorce yet. Happy anniversary, thank you, even though we spend a considerable amount of time together In prose. It's not too bad?
Speaker 2:is it In prose proximity, close, close proximity. What?
Speaker 1:did you say Prose proximity? How many wines you down remember? This is only this is only half strength wine we found out, didn't we? That's the dyslexia we've got to have double the amount no alright. So oh no, can I just say one thing about the dyslexia? That was funny this week funny for who no, even you laughed okay when you were, you were asking me about oh the box, the box. What came in that box?
Speaker 1:the mannequin oh yeah, so I will tell you why. We ordered a mannequin the other day in a minute. So there was the mannequin and you were telling me how it came from h&m or something, didn't you, you, the shop, yeah, so I didn't throw the H&M box. And you said something like I didn't know. H&m sold mannequins.
Speaker 2:I thought maybe it was an ex-display mannequin that they didn't want anymore, so that's why they were selling them off.
Speaker 1:And it was from H&M and I was really confused. I'm troughing pingles now. Yeah yeah, I was really confused about what you're talking about, and then you pointed to the box and it was M&H, wasn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Same letters.
Speaker 1:I do love you for your quirky dyslexia.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I've got no choice now.
Speaker 1:It brings us all a little bit of humour in a dull world sometimes. So tonight let's share our launch okay celebrate it a little bit yeah so let me tell you a story once upon a time yeah, once upon a time. So in uganda, where I work with my projects if you don't know what I do, you can find them on our lifeinacancom website You'll see. I have an organization in Uganda that I've had for 18 years. This year, lots of years.
Speaker 1:And my projects are all around empowering women and children who live in the slums in Uganda, and I've been working out there for many years and I lived out there for a bit a few years too and anyway, one of my projects is a vocational academy it was something I've always wanted to have which is a vocational academy for children and for women.
Speaker 1:For women to help teach them skills that they can then convert into businesses that can generate money to support their families, and for kids who live in the slums, who may struggle to finish their education, that they can have vocational skills to help earn them some money or even put them through school. So we launched the Vocational Academy just before COVID and then, unfortunately, because of COVID, it kind of started yeah, it started and then shut down, you know, because we ironically launched it in the February and COVID hit the global world in March, and so we opened it and then closed it. So we kicked it. I kicked it back off again once we had the clearance after COVID, and the two areas that we teach in is sewing sewing and tailoring and hairdressing. That's our first two, and then we will expand as we as we continue. Anyway, out of our sewing academy has come some amazing women who have become very proficient sewers and tailors. Some have gone off to start their own businesses.
Speaker 2:Some so is.
Speaker 1:So is or seamstress well, no, because I think that's politically incorrect. Seemingly You're such a knob what was I for the other day? You are a knobhead, but you're my knobhead. I'm talking about that, yeah, yeah, I think they call them in Uganda. They would call themselves a tailor. Okay, even the ladies are tailors out there.
Speaker 1:So we had some ladies who were particularly exceptional actually that really, um were just lovely people and and got on really well and lived in the area in the slum where we were and around this time. So we had a little small sewing shop and around last year let's go back to another story. Another story that links up is that historically, we used to go to festivals, or we still go to music festivals, but not as much as we used to, but we used to go to a lot of music festivals where we were based HQ in the UK as the Isle of Wight, and if you know the Isle of Wight, we know that we have quite a few festivals over here and we used to go with my brother as well, who has a big group of lads really great fun. I'm saying lads, they're older people now, so we used to go camping with them and they had this thing where on a Saturday they would all wear this specific type of shirt that was made from some. It's quite pale and floral, but it was made from some different materials.
Speaker 1:And ian said I really like, I like the concept of that shirt, but I'd really like one done in in african materials, because ian grew up in south africa. So africa is a big part of and a massive part of your life, isn't it? And obviously it's been a massive part of my life. And so you said to me last year when we had the sewing shop, you said could you get these guys to make me a shirt to this specific kind of design?
Speaker 2:Design They've got artistic license on the patterns, what the colors are, or patterns.
Speaker 1:I just want it made from. Every single part is to be made from a different color and design, which I now know is 12 pieces of material. Every single part is to be made from a different color and design, which I now know is 12 pieces of material to make a shirt, when each part of the shirt, including the pocket, the breast pocket the cuffs, the collars every part of it is a different piece of material.
Speaker 1:So I went to my shop with one of your shirts, just a normal shirt that you had for the sizing and uh, and I was out there last May working and I said, right, guys, while you're making x, y and z, ian would like two shirts. And uh, I explained everything and they went off and they said, okay, and they made these two shirts. And they absolutely blew us away, didn't they? They did, they were just absolutely incredible. I mean, I feel terrible for thinking that I had lower expectations, to be honest, because I just was so blown away and I said to you, you're going to be so happy when you see these. And I sent you some pictures, didn't I?
Speaker 1:when we got back, you were. You just thought they were amazing and then you kept wearing them and people kept making comments about the shirts and they're like where did you get? That where can I get one? Because they were one-offs. They were just the only two shirts made in the world of this design and this style, etc. And we sat and talked about God. We should create something where people can buy these shirts, didn't we?
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1:Why not try us out for a month and see for yourself? For more information, just visit wwwglobaltrailblazingcom. But then we sat on it for a bit, um, because we didn't really have the headspace, and we parked it up, didn't we? And then, as it got to kind of September, october last year, I was auditing some of our projects and thinking this the whole shirt thing was really playing on my mind and thinking about how can we bring these shirts out into the world, but also how can we continue to raise money for our projects. Isn't it out there? Because you know we are a small charity but we do massive things with thousands of people and yet you know we are small in the grand scheme of global charities, oh yeah, in the grand scheme of.
Speaker 1:But we've impacted thousands of people and I want to be able to keep doing that for as long as possible. You know, I don't want to think that in the not too distant future we might go. Do you know what we've got to off? And I started chatting because obviously I work even when I'm back, when I'm not in uganda. I'm working extensively on these, my projects out there, and we started sort of mapping out what it could look like and then in when I was actually back out in uganda in december, we started properly putting it together didn't we?
Speaker 1:And we actually started building the framework for an incredible shirt brand called.
Speaker 2:Swagger.
Speaker 1:Swagger Shirts and so since December we were mapping it out before december and then when I was out there in december, the whole of my time bar doing auditing some of my other projects the whole thing was around swagger shirts. And then since then, we've been working our socks off on swagger shirts and buying domains, and I got the domains ages ago you know me and domains.
Speaker 1:We got it all ages ago. We had it all set up. We were just working out our sizings, our material supplies, our shipping, just everything that goes with having a shirt brand but also wanting to distribute out into the world. There's there's things you've got to think about and, anyway, what also happened in the process of this is a very good friend of mine, danny wallace, who has an event that's about to happen in the uk next week, and she has a kind of an exhibition area at her event. It's called the the Big Festoon.
Speaker 1:If you haven't gone this year or if you're not going in March, there'll be another one in six months. Keep an eye out for that if you're in the UK. I was chatting with her. She's one of my really good friends and she offered us an exhibition space for Swagger Shirts because she knows the work I do in Uganda and she's always been a huge advocate for the work I do. She also does amazing stuff in the area of helping women who have had struggles or challenges around domestic violence, and we we both work in areas where what we're trying to do and in the giving back side of our world is empower women in whatever way we can.
Speaker 1:So she, she gifted us an exhibition space yeah at the big festoon and a few months back, a couple of months back, and I was like we have to make it we have to do this.
Speaker 1:This is an amazing opportunity and that was also one of the things that fueled our reasoning behind. We need to come back to the UK as well, because we're going to do this residency. We can also, you know, actually take part in the big festoon and we can do it. And so we have been working our little socks off getting ready to go and exhibit next week We've had. That's where the mannequins come in.
Speaker 1:The mannequins are two mannequins yeah, from from the, from the uh h and m m and h? Um to display the shirts and other bits and pieces. We've been putting together all the branding and everything and getting it all up together and the packaging and stuff and uh. So tonight, though, because we've got these shirts that are on their way to us right now, the guys in Uganda have worked tirelessly to get us enough shirts to take for the exhibition, but we've really kept this all under wraps, haven't we? Because we knew there were.
Speaker 1:We had to have so many ducks in a row, didn't we Before we felt like we could put it out there, didn't we before we felt like we could put it out there? We only, kind of like people that have been in our world in bulgaria, really knew a bit about what was going on, but a lot of people didn't. No one really in the uk has had a clue what we've been doing, and so tonight we finally hit the live button, didn't we? Because we did, we were like, hang a minute, we're going to be at an event next week and we haven't actually opened the doors.
Speaker 1:So we sat there earlier today well, about an hour ago, and we had a very plasticky chink of our glasses. Yeah, and we've just released Swagger shirts out into the world.
Speaker 2:It's there. No turning back now no, turning back.
Speaker 1:How do you feel about it? Excited, yeah, no, because this is the thing, right, is that? How do you find working with me? Because obviously this is this is our first kind of joint. It's a joint venture, like because swagger shirts ultimately in its initial stages as a men's shirt, yeah, we do believe that if we can pull this off, there'll be other like products, like we've already had them makes us some bags and bits and pieces, haven't we? Just to kind of experiment with some new things. So, yeah, we will. We do think we'll have some additional products, but the initial branding is swagger shirts and so obviously it made sense for you to be a lot more involved in this, because one, you were part of the journey, but also you're a bloke with man shirts I am, but obviously the organization is me and the what have we said before, I'm like the arse end of the donkey when it comes to this.
Speaker 1:I'm in the background doing all the beavering away. When it comes to this, I'm in the background doing all the beavering away. But this is our first proper joint collaboration, even though we work together on lots of things, but this is our first proper one.
Speaker 2:What's it like working with the wife? Scary, why I'm not going to live up to your expectations.
Speaker 1:Oh, dang it.
Speaker 2:No, no, you just have to look good in a shirt and you look good in a shirt, just a shirt. Just a shirt, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:You just have to look good in a shirt.
Speaker 2:Okay, I found my best.
Speaker 1:You dyed your hair to go with the look today, didn't you, mm-hmm? To get your swagger on yeah no, I'm actually, I'm actually really excited about it. I'm excited for it to continue supporting the charity if I'm honest being honest, because this is uncorked being honest, I feel this is the first time I've bought my work out of Uganda yeah and so I am a bit nervous about bringing it out into the world. I also feel quite a lot of responsibility in doing that, because there's a lot of women and kids resting on this.
Speaker 2:But the nice thing is, like most charities are, here we are. We're a charity. Please give us your money and you get nothing in return for it, whereas this is a business venture, where it supports the people that make the shirts, it supports the people that sell the material, it supports lots of other different businesses.
Speaker 2:It's quite a big chain, isn't it the ladies that do even the buttonholes and the buttons and everything else. And then it then pays back into the school and the projects and the mosquito nets and everything else. So it's not just a charity saying here we are, we're a charity, please give us your money and thank you very much, see you later. There's a long line of people that benefit from it.
Speaker 1:That's really true, as well as someone looking good in a shirt.
Speaker 2:As well as someone looking good in a shirt. We've just got to find that someone.
Speaker 1:We've got to find Is that your mannequin. Well, we've tried my mannequin with a shirt. It looks good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:What have we got, jeff and Mark?
Speaker 2:Jeff and Mark yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the two mannequins, jeff and Mark. One's got arms one hasn't.
Speaker 1:One's got arms for the long sleeves and one's got nothing for the short sleeves. And yeah, no, I do, I won't lie. I feel a little bit it's a nervous excitement. Do you know? What I'm excited about is that, like, these shirts are so good that I feel like I don't know. I just feel like there's potential that actually, like, we're launching this as a brand, a shirt brand, we're not launching this as a charity shop that's just selling some shirts, like we are properly going. Yeah, this is a brand of shirt for people who like bright shirts, festival shirts, statement shirts unique shirts, totally unique.
Speaker 1:We want it to be there as a brand of shirt. It's just that it also has a kind of humanitarian story and mission connected to it, doesn't it? It does. So, yeah, it's quite exciting, isn't it? It is. We're going to be all over the swagger thing at the moment with this exhibiting in the week. It's going to be good, but you think you can the whole working together though thing I think we do. All right, yeah.
Speaker 2:We don't bite each other's head off. As much as I know, my mum and dad worked together for years and that put a big strain on their relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But eight years down and we still seem to be ticking away.
Speaker 1:Eight years of marriage down. We've done all right. Yeah, I think we can work together quite well. It's just things like kitchen stuff causes conflict, doesn't?
Speaker 2:it.
Speaker 1:We just don't work in the kitchen, we just don't work in the kitchen together got a classic example today of ian in the kitchen ian's. I don't know if any of you watch michael mcintyre or if you've even heard of michael mcintyre if you're not in the UK, but he is a really funny comedian and if you can get British humour.
Speaker 2:I'm glad he's a funny comedian.
Speaker 1:No, but there's comedians who think they're funny and they're really not very funny. But if you can cope with British humour, whack him in YouTube and listen. But he talks a lot about his relationship with his wife, doesn't he, and the kind of their dynamics. And one of the things he talks about is how his wife will sit there and say things like Michael, why can't you? You put the stuff you put, like things, by the dishwasher, not in the dishwasher. You put stuff by the washing machine or in the washing machine. You put stuff by the cupboard, not in the cupboard. You put stuff by the cupboard, not in the cupboard. And that's basically you, isn't it? It's just today I was asking Ian, why can't you just put the stuff away? I go in the kitchen and I just find piles of stuff on worktops, but above the cupboard they're meant to go in. And what was it you said to me today?
Speaker 2:I wasn't sure which cupboard it went in.
Speaker 1:I mean, granted, we've been away from this kitchen for a couple of years, but you've been in this kitchen for like 11 years. I'm taking in notice of where things live. And you are still playing the. I don't know where it lives, because I'm not interested. But I'm not interested, I'm not interested where it lives, but you just sit there piling it up going, but I don't know where it goes.
Speaker 2:It's clean, it's dried, it's placed somewhere.
Speaker 1:Somewhere, just literally somewhere. Yeah, it does drive me mad, it drives me insane.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:As well as the fact, the other thing that you do we find really funny is you just move on to something else, don't you?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1:You start one thing and then you just, it's like you just wander off. It's a bit like when we're in a shop, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know if you guys have the same thing going on, but Ian's got this really funny thing. If you go in a supermarket with him or a shop, any shop and you're like I have to say to him, can we go round this together? And even then I'll turn around and he's gone. He's literally gone. I have no idea where he is.
Speaker 2:But you know I'll turn up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's infuriating when I need to ask you a question about something and the answer is yes.
Speaker 1:And you've just gone. But it's got to the point that we will go in a supermarket and I will like please, ian, can you just stay here with me so that I can ask you any questions. Okay, I'll look on a shelf, turn and you're gone. You're just gone. It's funny that there was this time when we were here one time there's. So we're on an island at the moment and do you remember the time when you?
Speaker 1:You just literally walked out the house and then rang me from a place 45 minutes away? You rang me from Yarmouth. I didn't even know you'd left the house, because you just walked out the house. I didn't walk out, you didn't say goodbye or anything. And then you realised you were like oh yeah, I forgot. Yeah, but it wasn't even scheduled for you to go. You just made this decision. You were just going to pop to Yarmouth and you just walked out the house, got in the car and then rang me and I'm like why are you ringing me? And I think you're in the house. You're just like no, I'm in Yarmouth. I'm like what the hell? That's 45 minutes away. I didn't notice that he'd gone because we live in some kind of massive house. It's because my office is up in the attic and it's because my office is up in the attic and you're just gone.
Speaker 2:With the door.
Speaker 1:You are funny.
Speaker 2:I try.
Speaker 1:You are funny. I love you for it. Though you bring me a source of joy and laughter. You do make me laugh a lot, Don't you? Are you yawning now?
Speaker 2:I'm yawning.
Speaker 1:So you're getting on a bit now.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:Has it been a busy week busy week my time in life speak for yourself. Don't you be writing me off, don't you be writing me off.
Speaker 2:It's my time in life, not your time in life.
Speaker 1:I'm a couple of years younger than you.
Speaker 2:I'm over the half century.
Speaker 1:I'm not sitting here getting into all of this. I'd like, anyway, we do. You're going to tell me now there's no time to watch a movie, aren't you?
Speaker 2:No, there's no time to watch a movie.
Speaker 1:On Friday night. No, you old git.
Speaker 2:We launched the business and did a podcast, that's it, that's our date night.
Speaker 1:That's our date night.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Anyway, listen, thank you for your support with all things Swagger, shirts, butte.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you did all the hard work.
Speaker 1:You look good in the shirt, though I try you do look good in the shirt. But uh, thank you, for it was a good idea. It was a good idea in the first place for us to roll with it. Let's see, yes, what we can do with it let's hope it rolls let's hope it rolls. So if anybody is listening to this and wants to give it some swagger love, please check out please check it out and share.
Speaker 1:It can be found on instagram official swagger shirts. It's called at official swagger shirts. It's just swagger, swagger, swagger. It's just swagger shirts on facebook mr swagger nader and swShirtcom on its website. And, yeah, give it a little bit of love. That would be really amazing because, again, like Ian talks about, like the ripple effect, your little bit of sharing helps us get the shirts out towards more people, which eventually, you know, then all comes back to these amazing people out in uganda, doesn't? It is a?
Speaker 2:it is a huge, a huge ripple effect of change, and I'll say it doesn't just help your people, but because we're buying the material locally yeah, there is a chain, isn't? We're not buying from big suppliers and big manufacturers. We're buying from the local market stalls and everything else. So it's all local. All the money gets funneled back into the local businesses, the local people and that's exciting, no big brand no. Big companies no none of that exciting rubbish.
Speaker 1:I'm chuffed to bits.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, well, listen, let's have another last little plastic Chink chink. A plastic chink to like.
Speaker 2:Let me chink the bottom. That's a bit better.
Speaker 1:Oh, there is a better chink down there. I think it's just because it's thin up there, isn't it? That's definitely glass. That's a slightly better ching. So here's to. That's a weird little ching. Here's to Swagger, Shirts, Swagger here we come. Let's listen to this episode in a year's time and do one year anniversary of Swagger Shirts and see where we're at when the charity's broken its million pound mark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we're at when the charity's broken its million pound mark.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah. When we're like, uh, we've got all these really top people who are these influencers are going, you gotta get a swag shot, you know, you know what? When we've been invited to paris fashion week to have a show in all the swagger clothes, but, uh, yeah, no, no, it's going to be good, we've done it. Now that is the final big launch for the foreseeable future, but the one that actually genuinely has the biggest humanitarian impact potential of what we've been doing, haven't we? I'm seriously, you're just like I'm recording a podcast and all you're doing is stifling yawns and yawning. I did it quietly.
Speaker 2:My eyes are watering.
Speaker 1:That is just so rude, so rude.
Speaker 1:Good job we're not on camera. Good job, all right, guys. So that is Uncaught. Another date night Uncaught from the Phoenixes. Thank you for coming and sharing with us our particularly fun and exciting evening as we've launched Swagger Shirts, and just coming and hanging out with us and listening to Ian yawning throughout the process. We hope everything is good with you wherever you are in the world, and we will catch up with you on the next episode. We surely shall of wet wipes and wine uncorked. All right, take care, guys bye.